Monday, May 26, 2008

Zeitgeist (Part Two)

Alright guys like I said in my last blog, this blog is going to be entirely about the Gods that came before Jesus. In this part of the video Zeitgeist starts to compare Jesus Christ to gods that were worshipped thousands of years before Christ. Although Zeitgeist uses clever ways to make these gods look more like Jesus than they really are.

  1. They use gods that have a laundry list of attributes that have changed and evolved from year to year and from myth to myth.
  2. They use gods whose attributes have been altered after the birth, death and resurrection of Christ.
  3. They stretch the truth, male false accusations and flat out lie about their "research" and "findings."

Because Zeitgeist compares several gods to Jesus I will be only discussing Horus in detail to save time.

P4, S3- "He (Horus) is the sun, anthropomorphized, and his life is a series of allegorical myths involving the sun's movement in the sky."

The earliest records of Horus state that Horus was a sun god, not the sun. To be more precise, the right eye of Horus represented the sun while the left represented the moon. Like I stated above, Horus has a large list of characteristics, that range from myth to myth, that Zeistgeist picked and chosed from to make him look more like Christ. In fact Horus has over 20 names that describe his characteristics. These names are Horus, Harmerty, Har-Si-Ese, Heru, Heru-ur, Heru-khuti, Harsiesis, Har-Wer, Osiris, Ra, Atum, Atum-Ra, Ra Herakhty, Neferhor, Nekheny, Mekhenty-er-irty, Khenty-er-irty, Har-Behedti, Ihy, Bebti, Heru-sema-tawy and many others.

p4, S5- "For instance, Horus, being the sun, or the light, had an enemy known as Set and Set was the personification of the darkness or night"

Horus was not the sun or the light he was a sun god. This is just a poor attempt to draw a parallel to Christ.

P5, S1 Part 1- "Broadly speaking, the story of Horus is as follows..."

Broadly speaking...

Broadly speaking...

Broadly speaking...

Well if you know my pastor, Pastor Dave, then you know what to do. You see he told our congregation when ever something is repeated three times, you should pay close attention. This is not an introduction to the next paragraph, rather it is a disclaimer. Zeitgeist knows what they are saying is false but are just blinded by so much hate to admit they cannot prove their story, so they fabricate a story. A story they hope you will except and follow... the very same thing they are accusing Christians of doing. To make things worse for Zeitgeist edited their movie and transcript after they realized what they said. If you request an original transcript P5, S1 will say "Boldly speaking..."

P5, S1 Part 2- "Horus was born on December 25th"

This is not an attribute of Christ. It is a tradition put in place by the Catholic church in 354 A.D. The reason why the Catholic church chose this day to celebrate the birth of Christ is because pagans celebrated the winter solstice on that day. The theory behind it was if the pagans celebrated the birth of Jesus on the 25th they could not celebrate the winter solstice and thus be forced to chose in between the two. There is no recorded date of Jesus' birth in the bible so therefore the actually date cannot be verified.

p5, S1 Part 3- "of the virgin Isis-Meri."

The impregnation of Isis is often debated by many historians because there are so many different versions. Although, when you look at the references Zeitgeist uses they say nothing about Isis being a virgin

"It is often argued that Isis was not a virgin because, in one version of the myth, she impregnated herself using the severed phallus of Osiris [the envisioned father of Horus] after he was killed and torn to pieces.... A ‘miracle conception.'"

"However, in another version of the myth, Frazer points out that Isis was impregnated with Horus: While she fluttered in the form of a hawk over the crops of her dead husband... a ‘virgin conception'"

It may be odd but it is not a virgin conception. Also if it is such a huge deal that Isis was virgin, do you not think it would have been recorded? The word virgin is not mentioned inside of the actually myth but later added by the author.

P5, S2 Part 1- "His birth (Horus) was accompanied by a star in the east..."

Later in the video, Zeitgeist will unveil that the star that announces the birth of Christ was Sirius. Although that makes no sense considering I am looking out my window right now and I have located Sirius. Was Jesus just born again? Of course not, this is just another pathetic attempt by Zeitgeist to relate the birth of Christ to astrological advents. Sirius is visible almost everyday of the year so what would draw the magi to it? It wouldn't, it was not the sign that was prophesied by the prophets.

P5, S2 Part 2- "Which in turn, three kings followed to locate and adorn the new-born savior."

Biblically speaking, there are no kings who visit Jesus just magi and the number of magi is non-specific.

P5, S3 Part 1- "At the age of 12, he was a prodigal child teacher, and at the age of 30..."

Zeitgeist sources do not reveal that, Horus was a "prodigal child teacher." The only reference, that Gerald Massey (the author of the reference Zeitgeist uses) uses, of Horus being 12 is that is when Egyptian child becomes an adult. Although Massey continues on to describe at the age of 30 is when a Egyptian becomes a real adult. From this data Zeitgeist came to the conclusion that Horus, "at the age of 12, he was a prodigal child teacher, and at the age of 30 he was baptized by a figure known as Anup..." Give me a break, another blatant lie!

P5, S3 Part 2- "...he was baptized by a figure known as Anup..."

From my personal studies I have found no such claim. Zeitgeist sources claim that Horus was pleading to the gods at the boat of Anup. Although, surprisingly the baptism of Horus by Anup is not mentioned. Another fabrication by Zeitgeist.

P5, S4- "Horus had 12 disciples he traveled about with, performing miracles such as healing the sick and walking on water."

Again my personal studies, the studies of other Zeitgeist debunkers and the studies of Zeitgeist do not reflect Horus had 12 disciples. Rather that the 12 signs of the Zodiac represent the twelve disciples, although I will go into further detail about that later in another blog.

p6, S5- "Horus was known by many gestural names such as The Truth, The Light, God's Anointed Son, The Good Shepherd, The Lamb of God, and many others."

Zeitgeist list two sources for this claim. The first is The Christ Conspiracy, by Acharya and it is listing the attributes of Osiris not Horus. The second is The Historical Jesus and the Mythical Christ, by Gerald Massey. In that work Massey excludes to list his own citation. Without a citation it is to be assumed to be opinion not fact because you cannot verify the claim.

P7, S5- "After being betrayed by Typhon, Horus was crucified, buried for 3 days, and thus, resurrected."

Crucifixion was a form of Roman capital punishment and is a fact that is was not developed during the supposed life of Horus. In fact, there is no crucifixion, 3 day death and resurrection scenario of any person, let alone another god, before Christ. This point will be made clearer in my next paragraph.

P8- "These attributes of Horus, whether original or not, seem to permeate in many cultures of the world, for many other gods are found to have the same general mythological structure."

Whether original or not...

Whether original or not...

Whether original or not...

You know what that means, listen up. Again Zeitgeist is warning you that they might not have been completely truthful. Zeitgeist knows if these attributes of Horus and other pre-Christain gods are added on after the life, death and resurrection of Christ it makes them, the pre-christian gods, look like the copy cat gods and that is what Zeitgeist claims Jesus to be. As far as I am concern we could close the book here. In a court of law you just have to put a shadow of doubt into jury to get your defendant acquitted but I am going on the offensive. I want you to have no doubt that Zeitgeist is just anti-christian propaganda. So I continue.

P7- Attis

This god cut off his genitals and planted them in the ground. Later an almond grew from his genitals. After the almond tree died an evergreen grew in its place. How is this related to Jesus?

(and on a completely different side note I think I made a huge discover! Is this why we call male genitals "nuts." I mean this man's genitals grew an almond tree which produces nuts and are the seeds of the almond tree! I mean I am just saying, it could be. I am sorry I could not resist!)

P8- Krishna

A god who is still worshiped to this day. The claims that Zeitgeist make about Krishna are true but do not surface until the 11 century. "Whether original or not!"

p9- Dionysus of Greece

The god of wine press according to Greek legend. After his death, he just remained dead. Zeitgeist shows no support of their claims.

p10- Mithra of Persia

Mithra was not known to the Roman world until the 2nd century A.D. How is this god a possible influence on the new testament writings considering it was already completed by this point.

It is getting late again and I have discussed everything that I believe is relevant. My next blog will be about the false claims that Jesus life is just merely a series of astrological events. Until then I just want to say propagandist pray on those who are weak. They look for those who are having hard times, maybe health issues or family issues. Hitler convinced an entire country that Jews where evil because they where weak. I am telling you, do not be weak and look at the facts. They add up to one answer, Jesus is real and he loves you. If you do not know and want to know how to get to know him give me a shout at phillipsz@my.wccc.edu.

1 comment:

Anonymous said...

Zaq -

I found your blog through random surfing, and I just wanted to encourage you with these posts. To do this amount of research on something shows a lot of fortitude and you're doing a great job!

I'm gonna reference this on my new site...hope that's cool! If not lemme know.

God bless, dude...hope all is well with you!

Brendan